there was a period more than a decade ago when we saw the pc market just exploding and companies like dell and hp increasingly making profits, growing revenue, selling hardware. then we got this period where it was about google. it was about ebay. it was about amazon. the services and the commerce that you can layer on top once you've got a big market of people who have these devices. we are reaching that with the smart phone market but we don't yet know which companies are going to invent the software services that really profitably take advantage of that. that's what it's going to be not this ipad. >> well said. final point, guys. rimm's down almost 8%. dan, do you think that reflects anything of how tomorrow may go for them? >> yeah. i think they've delayed this new operating system for so long it is almost going to be an anticlimactic. i doubt they'll have anything that is going to make people really want to switch if they can convince people. >> i'll see you at that event tomorrow morning. thanks, guys. over to mary thompson for a quick market flash. >> taking a look at shares of netf